wheel bearings>>>bad help... mk2 [Archive]

USOPHUNKE

06-02-2008, 07:34 PM

ok I have never done a front or rear wheel earig except to tighten the outer nut.

I have a rear corrado wheel bearing new which I think is the same and I can use..
need to buy a front one..

anyone know how to do it, is it something I can do myself or do I need to just take it somewhere.

do I need special tools,

anyone wanna make a few bucks on the side...

do they sell the wheel bearings local anywhere...

USOPHUNKE

06-02-2008, 07:49 PM

oh and does me having g60 front brakes and mk4 rear brakes have anything to do with size of bearing I order...

bearboy315

06-02-2008, 08:00 PM

give me a call I can explain it faster over the phone....

VWTUNING

06-02-2008, 08:07 PM

The bearings are based off what ever hubs you are running. From what I remember you have stock hubs all around, so just order stock bearings. If you want to do it at the shop I can help, we have a press there. Also I think Jake is working on some rears either tonight or tomorrow if you want to stop down and check it out.

bearboy315

06-02-2008, 08:10 PM

ya all that....

BUNNYLOVE

06-02-2008, 08:19 PM

You have MK4 calipers, the hubs/rotors are most likely G60 or GTI stuff. I would order rear rado bearings.

USOPHUNKE

06-02-2008, 10:14 PM

ok, sounds good tuesday I can prob swing down....

allstarrme

06-02-2008, 11:25 PM

There kinda a pain, I need to do a front one on my raddo as well.

USOPHUNKE

06-02-2008, 11:36 PM

I dont have tons of free time, I wonder how much a shop would charge me...

iceVee

06-03-2008, 09:38 AM

I dont have tons of free time, I wonder how much a shop would charge me...

I don't bother press the front bearings myself, usually. I pull the hub/spindle off the car and take it to Ed Karpinski, and have him do the bearing, and then I put it back together. It's been a while since I asked him to do one, I don't remember what he charged, but I remember it being reasonable.

Rear bearings are easy, they just take a little time.

lotar_6

06-03-2008, 10:16 AM

tube bias 25

06-03-2008, 11:02 AM

well im in the same boat as you i just got a quote from vw $100 just for them to look at it which they would take that off if i had them do the work $475 for the labor $100 for each front bearing and $200 each hub if i need them too alot of money so thats why im lucky to have friends on here like pete thx again pete

VWTUNING

06-03-2008, 11:07 AM

I dont have tons of free time, I wonder how much a shop would charge me...

Last time I did fronts for some one, I called around for price reference and I was quoted ~$350 a side for fronts (parts/labor w/ alignment). He bought the parts and I charged him $200 in labor for doing both fronts . I think he got the bearings for $40 a pop and had a lifetime alignment at firestone so he was able to save a decent amount. Depending how bad the bearing is you may need a new hub, I wuold recomend buying them (having them available if needed) and then returning them if not used. Rears are a lot easier IMO, I typically charge $50 a side. Are you doing new rotors too? Its even easier then... and the rears typically dont need new hubs unless you let them get tothe point where they are really bad (grinding or major humming).

PM me if you need help with it, I hate to see people pay soo much at a shop or the dealer :icon_mad:

USOPHUNKE

06-03-2008, 05:36 PM

If I had time to come up that way, i'd lend you my hubtamer to prevent the hub removal and consequent alignment costs... :frown: If you could make it down here, we could knock it out in no time.

just how bad is it?

the wheel shakes pretty good when I have it off the ground and at like 50mph, other speeds its ok, the rear isnt ad at all and might be ale to just be tightened and relubed... I dunno if I would trust driving it down there to be honest... im going to drive it to dub spot tonight to see if pete will look at it and tell me what he thinks....

lotar_6

06-03-2008, 06:45 PM

that's the safest thing... I wouldn't drive it that far either.

lite1979

06-04-2008, 11:26 AM

PM me if you need the press; I have one also and it's easy once you do it once. I'd say it takes about 1.5 hours max per side. There was some speculation as to whether or not you need an impact gun to use the press, but I've been using it with a big wrench at my brother's house with lots of success. I'd be happy to do it for you for cheap ($20?) as long as you pay for the new bearing and circlip and it's a convenient time. I've always gotten my bearings from Autopart International as well as the circlips. I always replace the axle nut as well.

USOPHUNKE

06-04-2008, 09:16 PM

good news is the rear should be fine I soke with the p.o. on the tex. and the wheel bearings on the rear are new(within 2000 miles) and he said they prob need to be retightened.

I talked to pete and he said I could do it down at the spot, i gotta buy parts and some beer =)
but he will tell me what to do so I can learn how. which I really would prefer....

thanks for the offer... what does the press look like btw im curious

FusLit

06-04-2008, 11:20 PM

thanks for the offer... what does the press look like btw im curious

http://www.juliantrubin.com/bigten/bigtenimages/gutenbergpress.jpg

Like that, but instead of for books, it makes good wheel bearings

-Todd

VWTUNING

06-05-2008, 12:18 AM

good news is the rear should be fine I soke with the p.o. on the tex. and the wheel bearings on the rear are new(within 2000 miles) and he said they prob need to be retightened.

I talked to pete and he said I could do it down at the spot, i gotta buy parts and some beer =)
but he will tell me what to do so I can learn how. which I really would prefer....

thats dope!

and yeah man, I would much rather help ya learn then do it for you. that goes for anyone, its what this club stuff is all about IMO :icon_tup:

allstarrme

06-05-2008, 05:24 AM

i have a pretty big clamp to do them on the car, and we have a nice press at the shop to do them off. just get the bearings and we'll set it up.

lotar_6

06-05-2008, 08:21 AM

thanks for the offer... what does the press look like btw im curious

http://www.ntxtools.com/Merchant/graphics/00000001/otc-6537.gif (http://www.ntxtools.com/network-tool-warehouse/OTC-6537.html)

HubTamer FTW!!!

I should be up Sunday and can bring it if you haven't done it by then. lmk.

iceVee

06-05-2008, 08:54 AM

the wheel shakes pretty good when I have it off the ground and at like 50mph, other speeds its ok, the rear isnt ad at all and might be ale to just be tightened and relubed... I dunno if I would trust driving it down there to be honest... im going to drive it to dub spot tonight to see if pete will look at it and tell me what he thinks....

Just out of curiosity, have you tried tightening the front axle nut? It's rare, but I've seen them come loose, and the loose nut makes it feel like the bearing is bad.

FusLit

06-05-2008, 09:56 AM

Just out of curiosity, have you tried tightening the front axle nut? It's rare, but I've seen them come loose, and the loose nut makes it feel like the bearing is bad.

On Tues, When he had it up on the lift I suggested that very thing and they were checking that (I think) when I left.

-Todd

crew219

06-05-2008, 10:49 AM

http://www.ntxtools.com/Merchant/graphics/00000001/otc-6537.gif (http://www.ntxtools.com/network-tool-warehouse/OTC-6537.html)

HubTamer FTW!!!

I should be up Sunday and can bring it if you haven't done it by then. lmk.

Remember when we first used it? Took like 10 minutes to drive out the passat bearing with the IR 2135Ti . . . . then your bearing popped out in like 15 seconds . . . lol.

Hubtamer is the only way to do these things . . . a press usually damages the bearing and results in reduced longevity.

Dave

USOPHUNKE

06-05-2008, 07:35 PM

USOPHUNKE

06-05-2008, 07:48 PM

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3828530&page=1

from p.o.

Rear wheel bearings shouldn't need to be replaced.... they were done when I did the rear disks and mayyyyyybe have 1000 miles on them. The fronts could probably use it because I just picked up the whole G60 front knuckles with brakes and all instead doing the wheel bearings on the 16v brakes that I previously had on there.

so do i still buy normal jetta wheel bearing???

allstarrme

06-06-2008, 06:06 AM

you want 2.0L mk3 or Corrado G60 wheel bearings, should be the same as passat 16v or mk2 GLI bearings too, looks like late mk2 8v/16v are the same. get the full Kit for them with new axle huts and circlips.

You may want to do both fronts, once one goes it puts play into the other and starts deteriorating it, just a matter of time till it goes too.

lotar_6

06-06-2008, 08:29 AM

yeah you wana bring it... I wont have time before sunday...

sure man... it'll make the sale of the trip to the wifey easier! Are the guys at the DS able to make room for you, or should we do it at your place? should call jay to hang too... haven't seen him in a while!

you want 2.0L mk3 or Corrado G60 wheel bearings, should be the same as passat 16v or mk2 GLI bearings too, looks like late mk2 8v/16v are the same. get the full Kit for them with new axle nuts and circlips.

You may want to do both fronts, once one goes it puts play into the other and starts deteriorating it, just a matter of time till it goes too.

:icon_yeahthat:

USOPHUNKE

06-06-2008, 05:50 PM

i did get the full kit... has not shown yet does gap deliver on sat. cuz thats who i ordered from... thought there stuff showwed next day if you ordered by noon

VWTUNING

06-06-2008, 05:52 PM

Usually but seems like they been slippin a bit lately - hopefully not a sign of a good company growing too fast...

USOPHUNKE

06-06-2008, 05:58 PM

well if its not here tom, i wont be doing the bearing I guess....

didnt order driverside, it felt fine... when it goes I will order it...

lotar_6

06-07-2008, 08:21 AM

i did get the full kit... has not shown yet does gap deliver on sat. cuz thats who i ordered from... thought there stuff showwed next day if you ordered by noon

they ship UPS and I think they deliver on Sat. gl!

crew219

06-07-2008, 09:04 AM

they ship UPS and I think they deliver on Sat. gl!

UPS doesn't deliver on saturday unless you pay extra. Fedex on the other hand delivers saturday no charge if it is home delivery . . . . but because of that, they don't deliver on mondays.

Dave

lite1979

06-07-2008, 10:33 AM

I could swear I've received stuff from GAP on a Saturday before... I was going to suggest getting the kit from Autopart International if you want to do it today. They're open until 1:30, I think. When the bearing comes in from GAP, you can probably get rid of it fast. Someone always needs a wheel bearing...

allstarrme

06-07-2008, 02:14 PM

yeah mine didn't show up either yet. last couple packages from GAP have taken 2 or 3 days though and the last one I got the tracking number said it came from texas.